Update request: New version of iStumbler available (122 vs 99)

[whmagill]

Mac Ports installs iStumbler version 99. When "check for updates" runs, a pop-up with a special yellow box indicates that a new update (122) is available, but that version 99 users need to download it explicitly.

Both work. Version 122 has several enhancements.

[mf2k (Frank Schima)]

In the future, please fill in the Port field and Cc the port maintainers (port info --maintainers istumbler).

[stuartwesterman (Stuart Westerman)]

It appears that iStumbler went from BSD license, to closed source and costs $20. It is also being distributed with .dmg. I'm not sure what to do here.

[kurthindenburg (Kurt Hindenburg)]

Cc Me!

[kurthindenburg (Kurt Hindenburg)]

It looks like 99 is the last release with source. Typically, you can try to patch the 99 to remove the 'Check for updates' to avoid confusing users.

[stuartwesterman (Stuart Westerman)]

I'm still not sure what to do here. It looks like the download site points to a zipped .app. I'm not sure how to patch release 99 to remove the 'Check for updates'.

[jerryyhom]

Removing the check for updates is easy, but then users might be confused why it is missing or not working. New users should be informed of newer versions, costs, etc., which seems appropriate with the check for updates. Perhaps explanation could be provided as 'notes' in the portfile?

[stuartwesterman (Stuart Westerman)]

Replying to jerryyhom@…:

Removing the check for updates is easy, but then users might be confused why it is missing or not working. New users should be informed of newer versions, costs, etc., which seems appropriate with the check for updates. Perhaps explanation could be provided as 'notes' in the portfile?

The problem here is that iStumbler is not open source software anymore. Again, I don't know what to do. As you mentioned, removing the check for updates is not much of a fix.

[jerryyhom]

It is an unusual situation, but clearly any release after 99 is closed source and cannot be supported via MacPorts. This is simply a best effort - release 99 can continue with that understanding. My suggestion is providing explanation via 'notes' if you are so inclined; otherwise, there is really not much else to do.

[larryv (Lawrence Velázquez)]

Replying to stuartwesterman@…:

The problem here is that iStumbler is not open source software anymore. Again, I don't know what to do. As you mentioned, removing the check for updates is not much of a fix.

As I see it, we should treat the project as if it were abandoned and remove it entirely. I don’t see a point in providing an outdated version forever. This is an uncommon situation, though, so you might want to ask macports-dev for additional opinions.

[stuartwesterman (Stuart Westerman)]

Replying to larryv@…:

Replying to stuartwesterman@…:

The problem here is that iStumbler is not open source software anymore. Again, I don't know what to do. As you mentioned, removing the check for updates is not much of a fix.

As I see it, we should treat the project as if it were abandoned and remove it entirely. I don’t see a point in providing an outdated version forever. This is an uncommon situation, though, so you might want to ask macports-dev for additional opinions.

I agree with this. I'll ask to have the port removed entirely.

[mf2k (Frank Schima)]

I opened a ticket for removing the port in #52726.

[kurthindenburg (Kurt Hindenburg)]

In 3425c4c/macports-ports:

istumbler: remove port - no longer open source

closes #52726
ref #45478