telnet port request (High Sierra)

[SaintBol]

As Apple has removed telnet (and ftp, and rcp, rlogin, rsh... but not tftp) in High Sierra, it's now up to macports to provide such feature.

Two possibilities (at least):

• using telnet code from Apple in Sierra (opensourced and available), as did Homebrew: ​http://formulae.brew.sh/formula/telnet
• using GNU inetutils package (also adds ftp/rsh/rlogin/tftp)

[Schamschula (Marius Schamschula)]

In 0fdd5a3dae93b790f02f2ed6961749c0fc22fc5d/macports-ports:

inetutils 1.9.4: new port

See: #55000

[Schamschula (Marius Schamschula)]

I created the inetutils port for that very reason, while High Sierra was still in beta. I have now pushed it to the main repository.

Note: the names of the various binaries have the "g" prefix, as is common practice for GNU utilities under MacPorts.

[raimue (Rainer Müller)]

Maybe we should drop the 'g' prefix for High Sierra as there is no ambiguity if the commands are no longer part of macOS?

[Schamschula (Marius Schamschula)]

Replying to raimue:

Maybe we should drop the 'g' prefix for High Sierra as there is no ambiguity if the commands are no longer part of macOS?

Sounds like a good plan: in work.

[Schamschula (Marius Schamschula)]

Replying to Schamschula:

Replying to raimue:

Maybe we should drop the 'g' prefix for High Sierra as there is no ambiguity if the commands are no longer part of macOS?

Sounds like a good plan: in work.

Added in [b454e656b1d40af6dbda0d67fe2a9b3c006c5c04/macports-ports]

[SaintBol]

Suggestion: what about adding the name of the tools in the description of the port (telnet, ftp, rlogin, rcp, tftp) to make them searchable with a port search command ?

[Schamschula (Marius Schamschula)]

In b56026eb51275da2d2908fea4dcabb438627c6f4/macports-ports:

inetutils 1.9.4: update description to list programs.

See: #55000

[SaintBol]

Some GNU inetutils tools are probably out of date (whois, already provided by either Apple whois or whois port which is up to date) or irrelevant (traceroute and ping/ping6, which lack SUID anyway, but also ifconfig, hostname, dnsdomainname, logger). In summary it would probably be safe to limit inetutils to what is usable in Darwin.

Suggestion: add a few disable lines in the configure invocation:

--disable-hostname   \
--disable-ping       \
--disable-ping6      \
--disable-talk       \
--disable-traceroute \
--disable-logger     \
--disable-whois      \
--disable-servers

[Schamschula (Marius Schamschula)]

Replying to SaintBol:

Some GNU inetutils tools are probably out of date (whois, already provided by either Apple whois or whois port which is up to date) or irrelevant (traceroute and ping/ping6, which lack SUID anyway, but also ifconfig, hostname, dnsdomainname, logger). In summary it would probably be safe to limit inetutils to what is usable in Darwin.

Suggestion: add a few disable lines in the configure invocation:

--disable-hostname   \
--disable-ping       \
--disable-ping6      \
--disable-talk       \
--disable-traceroute \
--disable-logger     \
--disable-whois      \
--disable-servers

You missed tftp. I'll add this for High Sierra, but will give users a choice to install everything.

BTW: I would not be so sure about Apple's tools being up to date. Most of Apple's tools are frozen at the time of the release GPL 3, with some security patches applied since, timely or not.

[SaintBol]

You're right about apple tools :) But the current existing 'whois' port is probably the appropriate way to go anyway.

[Schamschula (Marius Schamschula)]

In 18d5275d3b86afe5df2cf77b057a1e220852ca1f/macports-ports:

inetutils 1.9.4: don't shadow Apple installed apps on High Sierra

make server daemons optional
optionally install all client apps on High Sierra (with g prefix)
See: #55000

[SaintBol]

Well, I forgot this one:

--disable-ifconfig

There's also dnsdomainname that is useless, but it doesn't collide with any existing command (but there's no disable option in configure anyway).

[Schamschula (Marius Schamschula)]

Replying to SaintBol:

Well, I forgot this one:

--disable-ifconfig

There's also dnsdomainname that is useless, but it doesn't collide with any existing command (but there's no disable option in configure anyway).

Done: [83854c55b35ae120203e0a2e862c39787a8c64e0/macports-ports]

[senseysensor]

any estimations on implementing these tools? seems homebrew managed much faster with implementing this... unfortunately seems I've upgraded to high sierra too early :(

[Schamschula (Marius Schamschula)]

Replying to senseysensor:

any estimations on implementing these tools? seems homebrew managed much faster with implementing this... unfortunately seems I've upgraded to high sierra too early :(

Install inetutils:

sudo port install inetutils

under High Sierra this provides telnet, et al.