Port Health: possible to add information field for installs on Snow Leopard (PowerPC)?

[barracuda156]

I have followed @kencu guidelines and set up bootstrap installation of Macports with curl and rebuilt main Macports with new curl prefix, so info submission with mpstats apparently started working. However, I don’t know where it ends up, since presently no 10.6 PPC option exists in Port Health.

Such information could be useful - even though, admittedly, for a very few people.

36-225:~ svacchanda$ port -v installed mpstats
The following ports are currently installed:
  mpstats @0.2.0_0 (active) requested_variants='' platform='darwin 10' archs='noarch' date='2021-11-13T21:00:16+0800'
36-225:~ svacchanda$ /opt/local/libexec/mpstats show
Would submit the following data to https://ports.macports.org/statistics/submit/:
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    {"name": "xorg-xcb-util-renderutil", "version": "0.3.9_0", "requested": "true"},
    {"name": "xorg-xcb-util-keysyms", "version": "0.4.0_0", "requested": "true"},
    {"name": "xorg-xcb-util-image", "version": "0.4.0_1"},
    {"name": "xorg-xcb-util-cursor", "version": "0.1.3_1", "requested": "true"},
    {"name": "xorg-xcb-util-wm", "version": "0.4.1_0", "requested": "true"},
    {"name": "xorg-xcb-util-xrm", "version": "1.3_1", "requested": "true"}
  ]
}
36-225:~ svacchanda$ /opt/local/libexec/mpstats submit
Submitting data to https://ports.macports.org/statistics/submit/ ...
Success.

[mojca (Mojca Miklavec)]

How on earth do you even install 10.6 on PPC? Didn't that creature almost complain in the absence of the then-latest-and-greatest 64-bit Intel processors?

We cannot add port health unless someone installs a (semi)official builbot worker. That said, we also lack 10.5/ppc, 10.5/i386, 10.4/ppc, 10.4/i386 (and maybe some 64-bit ppc), all of which seem more relevant than 10.6/ppc. Your stats shows up though. See ​https://ports.macports.org/port/bzip2/stats/ for example and check macOS version 10.6.

I don't think there's anything else that could reasonably be done at this point.

[barracuda156]

Replying to mojca:

How on earth do you even install 10.6 on PPC? Didn't that creature almost complain in the absence of the then-latest-and-greatest 64-bit Intel processors?

We cannot add port health unless someone installs a (semi)official builbot worker. That said, we also lack 10.5/ppc, 10.5/i386, 10.4/ppc, 10.4/i386 (and maybe some 64-bit ppc), all of which seem more relevant than 10.6/ppc. Your stats shows up though. See ​https://ports.macports.org/port/bzip2/stats/ for example and check macOS version 10.6.

I don't think there's anything else that could reasonably be done at this point.

Great, thank you! I thought that port health is pulled stats from Macports users globally.

Since stats is uploaded correctly, no issues. And I agree that ppc64 would be much more relevant (I am working on building ports as universal now on 10.5.8 PPC.)

[chrstphrchvz (Christopher Chavez)]

Replying to mojca:

How on earth do you even install 10.6 on PPC?

Presumably this is referring to running 10.6 developer previews (or the PowerPC-compatible portions of them): ​https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/snow-leopard-on-unsupported-ppc-machines.2232031/

In addition to this being an ongoing community effort, there are likely “legal” issues which may prevent its use by MacPorts in any official way, including how the developer previews are obtained from file sharing sites rather than directly from Apple, and that (to my knowledge) the licensing terms of prerelease versions of macOS which restrict their use to registered developers and/or public beta participants do not expire upon the generally available release.

[kencu (Ken)]

Fixing MacPorts and the newer toolchains to work for the 10.6-on-PPC folks was (briefly) a fun quickie project, but MacPorts as a whole should stay 100,000 km away from this, of course.

Not to mention it appears to be a mess of a system to work with (being neither 10.5 nor 10.6), and AFAICT has no advantage over 10.5.8 PPC anyway, other than the system reporting it is 10.6.

All the stuff I would want in 10.6 that does not exist in 10.5 either doesn't exist in 10.6-for-PPC or has never been shown to work.

If someone wants, say, libdispatch on 10.5, then adding that as a separate, testable, project to 10.5 PPC (like we do with so many other things on MacPorts) would be a better way to go.

[ryandesign (Ryan Carsten Schmidt)]

Can't add build status information that does not exist. (We don't have a 10.6 ppc builder and never will since that OS version doesn't exist.)

[barracuda156]

Replying to ryandesign:

Can't add build status information that does not exist. (We don't have a 10.6 ppc builder and never will since that OS version doesn't exist.)

Yes, I got that. I was thinking that port health reports status from submitted mpstats. It turned out it is not the case.

[barracuda156]

Replying to kencu:

Asking here, since ticket is closed anyway.

Some folks on Macrumors would like to have step-wise explanation how to make Macports work for 10.6 PPC (and possibly 10.6.8 Rosetta). I can make it, at least for the first (Rosetta part is stuck on llvm-3.3 at the moment). Now, the question is how to refer to you appropriately, since both initial set-up and some important guidelines were given by you, and whatever I did further is based on your contribution.

Another thing is whether I can share actual customized port files that work for me, or do I need instead to describe fixes so that anyone can do that on their own (this will probably reduce a number of people eager to do it in the first place).